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Not sure if anyone saw this:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-59210036

Essentially banning any 'tampering' with the car that could affect power/emissions etc.

Sounds like a slippery slope to me.
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Freedom/fun is running out... :angryfire:
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Time to get rid of the government then, no more freedom :x
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My thinking its aimed at future 'E' vehicles where significant functional safety will be determined by programming rather than actual physical means (kinda scary anyway). Most motoring law isn't retrospective, so hopefully nothing for 'us' to panic about. It'll be interesting to see how it will affect 'future' customising such as rebodying electrics with classic bodyshells etc. I fully expect to be long gone by then.
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I don't think its going to affect us either. Aimed at the snap crackle and pop modern car brigade who will no doubt be coming up with something to make electric cars kick up a din...
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the MMA is part of the FBHVC and they have published an update on this.
It seems the government have listened to them directly and this new tampering is not likely to be retrospective.
There is alot to read but the scaremongering is not needed. I've quoted what I think is the relevant highlight part below.

https://www.fbhvc.co.uk/news/article/fb ... ory-review

Remember that all MMA members can access the information on the FBHVC website, it is likely to be somewhat more reliable than the BBC or FaceBook!

As a benefit of the long-standing working relationship between FBHVC and DfT, the Federation received an
early invitation to respond directly to the DfT ahead of the formal Consultation.
The Federation used this opportunity to ask for confirmation that the principle of no retrospective effect
would be maintained and to address the concerns over anti tampering proposals. The Federation therefore
sought assurances from the DfT on the following points:
a. The DfT would follow the existing long policy principle that the revised regulations will not have
retrospective effect.
b. They would specifically not apply tampering provisions retrospectively, but confine them exclusively
to “tomorrow’s” vehicles.
c. They would consider a specific exemption provision in the regulations allied to the definition of
historic vehicles.
The Federation has received a detailed written response from the DfT, who have given assurances that they
do not intend their proposals to prevent legitimate motorsport activities, prevent restoration, repairs or
legitimate improvements to vehicles, such as classic cars or motorbikes or to negatively impact businesses
involved in these activities. These assurances are reflected in the recent issue of an updated consultation
paper on the DfT website.
They also confirmed older vehicles will not be expected to comply with new type approval standards. The type
of activities they want to take more effective action against include tampering activities that prevent a
vehicle’s emissions system from operating correctly and as vehicles become increasingly automated, to
prevent alterations to a vehicle’s integral software and sensing technologies which create safety and security
risks. A badly modified “autonomous vehicle” for example, has the potential to kill its occupants and other
road users.
The prompt action by the Federation as a formal stakeholder, has produced a preliminary response from the
DfT that will offer reassurance to those who have expressed concerns about potentially damaging legislation.
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Thanks for this update Matt. Seems pretty straightforward to be honest and won't be relevant to our old cars, cheers Steve :thumbright:
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