New carter carb needed

SammyH770 · Post by **SammyH770** » Tue Jan 05, 16 11:00 pm

Dave81 wrote:Just for comparison Sam.

Brand new ceramic coated Dougs headers of Amazon for £650 delivered to my door. 2x used Flowmaster 40 series mufflers off a member here (only done 100 miles on em) £90. Brand new dual 2.5 inch tubing, hangers, welding and fitting circa £200 by Jim Smith to the rear axle.

I didn't buy cheap headers, but that's all brand new basically for £940..........

Wow yeah that sounds good. I think I might need to get another quote then.

Stu · Post by **Stu** » Tue Jan 05, 16 11:02 pm

GJUK wrote:
SammyH770 wrote:
Stu wrote:I have an iron 4bbl intake if you decide to go that route that won't break the bank. ;-)

It ain't pretty, but it'll scrub up fine.
Sorry to be dense is that a carb? if so let me know how much you would want for it, would I be able to get all the right other bits for it?
yeah that is a carb.

Just to avoid confusion, Sammy, no it's not a carb, its the !manifold you need.

I also have a spare pair of glasses for John.

SammyH770 · Post by **SammyH770** » Tue Jan 05, 16 11:09 pm

Pete wrote:No, I don't have an Aus Mopar.

I have a 440 powered Super Bee, but I have had Small blocks in the past.

Oooh nice. The guy I bought the mustang off had a Super Bee in a shed, it was immaculate, still had the plastic wrapping on the seats and only 200 mile on the clock, it was just like it had rolled off the production line. And parked up in a dusty barn and covered with a load of blankets, gutting!

I met a bloke at the mopars a couple of years ago he had a red aussie charger like mine, think his name was Pete, I thought you were him!

Pete · Post by **Pete** » Tue Jan 05, 16 11:12 pm

Nope, I have had a few Mopars, but never an Aussie one; I guess I will have to put one on the list.

Mind you, I have too many projects on the go at the moment.

I would be happy to pop up if you wish if you wanted a second opinion - your call. That is what the club is all about.

GJUK · Post by **GJUK** » Tue Jan 05, 16 11:13 pm

Stu wrote:
GJUK wrote:
SammyH770 wrote: Sorry to be dense is that a carb? if so let me know how much you would want for it, would I be able to get all the right other bits for it?
yeah that is a carb.
Just to avoid confusion, Sammy, no it's not a carb, its the !manifold you need.

I also have a spare pair of glasses for John.

oops missed the word 'intake'

SammyH770 · Post by **SammyH770** » Tue Jan 05, 16 11:16 pm

Stu wrote:
GJUK wrote:
SammyH770 wrote: Sorry to be dense is that a carb? if so let me know how much you would want for it, would I be able to get all the right other bits for it?
yeah that is a carb.
Just to avoid confusion, Sammy, no it's not a carb, its the !manifold you need.

I also have a spare pair of glasses for John.

ok thanks for that but I am already well and truly confused, that is why it is just tempting to say to the garage just get a 4 bbl carb and whack it on there as its all too confusing for me! I understand that a 4 bbl wont fit on a 2bbl so you have to change the manifold but that's where my understanding ends lol. I think a gasket is the squidgy thing that goes between the manifold and the carb and seals them. I wish I knew more!

Stu · Post by **Stu** » Tue Jan 05, 16 11:16 pm

Sammy, the Fella you are thinking of is on here as "Aussie Pete"

Stu · Post by **Stu** » Tue Jan 05, 16 11:19 pm

Sammy, I would recommend taking Pete up on his offer to look, he won't give bad advice and knows his stuff. I can let him know exactly what I have and he will be able to explain all.

You can trust Pete, to be honest it doesn't sound like you can trust your Exhaust man!

SammyH770 · Post by **SammyH770** » Tue Jan 05, 16 11:21 pm

Pete wrote:Nope, I have had a few Mopars, but never an Aussie one; I guess I will have to put one on the list.

Mind you, I have too many projects on the go at the moment.

I would be happy to pop up if you wish if you wanted a second opinion - your call. That is what the club is all about.

I think one project is enough!

Thanks for the offer, it would be great if you wouldn't mind giving me a second opinion and much appreciated.

Pete · Post by **Pete** » Tue Jan 05, 16 11:21 pm

Stu wrote:Sammy, the Fella you are thinking of is on here as "Aussie Pete"

Yes, I'm some other bloke.

Get a "How to rebuild your Small Block Chrysler" book ("Mustangbooks" on here may have them) or the dreaded eBay and have a good read up.

They are really simple and basic engines and quite therapeutic to work on.
I should know - I have ruined loads of them!

GJUK · Post by **GJUK** » Tue Jan 05, 16 11:33 pm

SammyH770 wrote:
Stu wrote:
GJUK wrote: yeah that is a carb.
Just to avoid confusion, Sammy, no it's not a carb, its the !manifold you need.

I also have a spare pair of glasses for John.
ok thanks for that but I am already well and truly confused, that is why it is just tempting to say to the garage just get a 4 bbl carb and whack it on there as its all too confusing for me! I understand that a 4 bbl wont fit on a 2bbl so you have to change the manifold but that's where my understanding ends lol. I think a gasket is the squidgy thing that goes between the manifold and the carb and seals them. I wish I knew more!

4bbl intake = intake manifold (my fault for not seeing that word I skim read the post)
4bbl carb = 4 barrel carburetor, such as a holley
Gasket = the seal between two 'bits of equipment'. your sump has a gasket between it and your engine bottom end, same as your carb will have one between it and your intake (manifold).

PM me if you have any questions, I know .000000000001% that some of these other members know on here. But I am happy to help

SammyH770 · Post by **SammyH770** » Tue Jan 05, 16 11:37 pm

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Haynes-Manual ... Swp5JWacIM

Think I need this one too. Will definitely get the book you mentioned Pete.

Dave999 · Post by **Dave999** » Wed Jan 06, 16 10:35 am

Hi

sounds like you are having fun

[oh just spotted pete offered to have a look excellent news, PS you do not need a hemi or 4.11:1 gears]

and although i've never seen your car, it sounds to me like someone is taking advantage.......

1) filling the tank
-basically you can't run a modern pump at anything more than 1/4 -1/2 speed
-pull the pump hose right out from its reel and stand on it with 1 foot to stop it pulling back in and so its tension isn't pulling the nozzle at your hand.
-push the nozzle in up to its splash shield, facing as down as possible.
-angle the bend of the nozzle slightly left or right to promote swirl.
-start filling at the slowest speed you can, and ramp it up until you see splashes at the splash shield back off a smidge and hold it there.

ITS A FEATURE.......this is why the Proper race versions of these cars had 2 dodge charger style flip caps in the rear 1/4s behind the rear side windows and 2.5 inch pipe through the boot to the top of the tank. they used to open one to vent and fill through the other.

Alternative is a length of silicone hose off ebay that fits over the pump nozzle as a long sheath , which you shove down the hole, messy to store but effective in action.

2) in My opinion your exhaust should not be costing that much. Pull it out of where it is and get in touch with JohnR or Anton on here. Anton is APD automotive
here http://www.apdautomotive.co.uk/

and JohnR is a Marine and general engineer

Both are eminently trustworthy guys, based on experience and the fact I have known both for 10 years I'm pretty certain one or both can help you out with these jobs, obviously I have no idea how much they will cost but at least if they say its £750 you have a Nice person... someone one in the club telling you how good/bad it is

John has a day job but will take on other work time permitting.

Anton visits the forum just about every day John doesn't I have numbers for both

There is nothing here that would worry either of them. Anton will take delivery of a car on a trailer and has arranged delivery and return before

john owns a truck and has travelled to fix or picked up and taken away in the past

there would be delivery or travel costs I'm sure but I can't think either would charge £750 to weld up an exhaust.

3) prop shaft
- if its bent then you have a problem
- if its got the original joints they have grease fittings...they need greasing...
- If its not bent and you need joints. half to 1 hour job. pull prop dig out spring clips bash out joints clean up eyes put in new joint slot in caps. clamp in place and put on spring clips. its a 4 small bolts small hammer big screwdriver job (and a G clamp if you are a Jessy or have very weak grip and can't hold the caps in far enough to get the clips on)

yours is a 318 engine with a 904 auto box I have a charger 904 spline shaft that I will never use, for v8 engine/auto swap which I will never do. (why make the best handling Mopar handle badly

)
i.e. I have a shaft here you can have

yours will have painted bands on it. if you tell me what they are I can check compatibility with my spare. I'll have a look at mine.

4) Carb
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-CARBURETT ... SwJcZWb~gP

this is a brand new Chinese copy. I'd take rods springs and jets from your original and fit to this. worst case scenario would be you spend £79 on this, the carb body is rubbish and just end up using the bottom bit with the throttle plates in it, the only problem with your current old carb will be worn throttle shaft bushes or bits missing. I've got one from this seller, eyeballing it the quality seems good but the rubber pipe to the choke puller is rubbish and so is the supplied gasket. use your originals

a US supplier had some Carter BBD carbs made in china these ones on ebay are probably coming out the back door of the factory. The supplier in Hong-Kong is legit and has the product in the picture based on my experience

or take the 4 barrel manifold from stu/gareth and fit a 600 vac secondary holley (the carb the race oriented enthusiasts take off and replace with bigger) or a 550 or 600 Carter/edelbrock in which case make sure you get one jetted springed and rodded for a 318, we can then introduce you to Ade W at a show and he can make it work properly... (he's the fella wearing shorts when its snowing)

If anyone London based is going up Cambridge way happy to stick carb and prop shaft and a serviceable UJ in a very long bag....if my carb works buy me a new one when you get the chance

Dave

Stu · Post by **Stu** » Wed Jan 06, 16 10:48 am

What he said.

If you decide you want the manifold, I can get it as far as Kempton Park on the 18th/19th if a relay service could get it to you from there.

CLPete · Post by **CLPete** » Wed Jan 06, 16 1:13 pm

Dave999 wrote: ...

4) Carb
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-CARBURETT ... SwJcZWb~gP

this is a brand new Chinese copy. ...

Dave

Hi Dave (& Sammy - just jumping into your thread here for a sec!) - how did you find the import process? I note the ad has a comment about potential import duties, handling fees etc etc!