Mopar Muscle Association UK

Post cars were the base model, stiffer and a little lighter and also the cheapest hemi package so the most desirable model for racing, on track or off.

Rare cars like this get bought by collectors for bragging rights and investment potential, not for driving. No doubt they have some modern exotica to use or get driven around in. If I owned something like that I would want to drive it, but as I'm not willing to spend the money it would take to get such a car, it's a pointless statement.

Trigger_Andy wrote:As others have said, its absolutely stunning. Its a survivor car and a survivor car for a reason, because its maintained and driven responsibly and infrequently.

I completely disagree with you on this, they sure aren't making any more of these cars and I believe the few that are in this condition should stay in this condition for future generations to look at and use as a reference. Much better than guess work, and pictures.

You always hear people who could not in their dreams own one of these cars say they'd run it ragged. Why is it always people without money telling people what they'do do with something if they had the money? To me that smacks of people without money not appreciating things that take money and effort to own.

Dave81 wrote:

Trigger_Andy wrote:I might have been hallucinating but Im sure I just watched a vid of it being driven...............

You have, but I'd guess that's a once in a blue moon event for YouTube?

Not to stereotype, but the guys that buy these high value cars don't tend to take them out much.........I'd drive the wheels off it and take it too the NATS etc.

I may be wrong, and hopefully so, but its done less than 9000 miles in nearly 50 years...........that tells a story in itself........

By all means disagree with me its only an opinion after all.

But I'll be Bananarama! that if and when I'm lay on my death bed I'll look back and be happy that I owned such great cars and never used them. I'd use it for what it is, a car not a museum piece.......... Its just sad in my eyes.

There are also pleanty of cars on this very forum that get driven across country to events that are in stunning condition. I don't understand why them being driven will mean they can't be there for future generations........absolute tosh. If you look after stuff it will last and like many on here, be just as good as when they rolled of the production lines 40 to 50 years ago.

As for your last paragraph.......nice guess work inspector morse.
Problem is you don't know me or my financial situation. What I can tell you is that if I wanted a hemi car I could go and get one tomorrow via remortgage and finance.
But that's too easy (and financial idiocy IMO).

Instead I decided to save for two years and bought outright what I've got. Every penny in that car is worked for first not financed. Just because I don't have a high ££ car does not make an opinion less valuable............ I think you'll find things attained through years of hard graft give people a better appreciation of what it takes to own such cars.

Which is why IMO its sad too see such cars just sat in a garage/shed unused. Why work hard to own such things and not use them. Would you work for years to buy a house then not live in it because its a newly decorated show home.............

Was not a personal dig per-se. But if you have to remortgage and take finance then you really cant afford it. Im in the same boat, so its not a personal dig.

You hear it time and time again on this and other forums. People without the means to own one saying what they'd do with one if they did.

Tell me, what original Hemo survivor car is driven around regularly and to events? Not many I assume, as far as Im aware the ones I know of in the club are looked after and cared for as they should be.

I assume if you did go down the road of remortgaging and financing to buy this car you'd bloody look after it too. No one wants to see all that money drip down the drain to prove a point.

Give yourself a nice pat on the back for working hard and saving, Im sure you're on your own in that regard here......

Dave81 wrote:

Trigger_Andy wrote:As others have said, its absolutely stunning. Its a survivor car and a survivor car for a reason, because its maintained and driven responsibly and infrequently.

I completely disagree with you on this, they sure aren't making any more of these cars and I believe the few that are in this condition should stay in this condition for future generations to look at and use as a reference. Much better than guess work, and pictures.

You always hear people who could not in their dreams own one of these cars say they'd run it ragged. Why is it always people without money telling people what they'do do with something if they had the money? To me that smacks of people without money not appreciating things that take money and effort to own.

Dave81 wrote: You have, but I'd guess that's a once in a blue moon event for YouTube?

Not to stereotype, but the guys that buy these high value cars don't tend to take them out much.........I'd drive the wheels off it and take it too the NATS etc.

I may be wrong, and hopefully so, but its done less than 9000 miles in nearly 50 years...........that tells a story in itself........

By all means disagree with me its only an opinion after all.

But I'll be Bananarama! that if and when I'm lay on my death bed I'll look back and be happy that I owned such great cars and never used them. I'd use it for what it is, a car not a museum piece.......... Its just sad in my eyes.

There are also pleanty of cars on this very forum that get driven across country to events that are in stunning condition. I don't understand why them being driven will mean they can't be there for future generations........absolute tosh. If you look after stuff it will last and like many on here, be just as good as when they rolled of the production lines 40 to 50 years ago.

As for your last paragraph.......nice guess work inspector morse.
Problem is you don't know me or my financial situation. What I can tell you is that if I wanted a hemi car I could go and get one tomorrow via remortgage and finance.
But that's too easy (and financial idiocy IMO).

Instead I decided to save for two years and bought outright what I've got. Every penny in that car is worked for first not financed. Just because I don't have a high ££ car does not make an opinion less valuable............ I think you'll find things attained through years of hard graft give people a better appreciation of what it takes to own such cars.

Which is why IMO its sad too see such cars just sat in a garage/shed unused. Why work hard to own such things and not use them. Would you work for years to buy a house then not live in it because its a newly decorated show home.............

What a beautifully understated thing that '66 is. Black and tan is such a classic colour combination, too. Love it.

I could go and buy a hemi car tomorrow,cash. Would I? No,because that much money tied up in a toy is madness when at the mercy of other drivers. One hard swipe on a roundabout and the investment is gone as is the originality if the car got repaired. True survivor cars should be used,but not on public roads.

latil wrote:I could go and buy a hemi car tomorrow,cash. Would I? No,because that much money tied up in a toy is madness when at the mercy of other drivers. One hard swipe on a roundabout and the investment is gone as is the originality if the car got repaired. True survivor cars should be used,but not on public roads.

that's true !!

you only have to look at a certain generation of drivers on the road today , they have enough trouble , texting & taking selfies for sadbook while driving , let alone looking where they are going !! it was because of these people , it was one of the reasons I converted the charger to uk speck turn signal & side light set up .
a car is only original once ! but car can be restored as many times as you like , & with AMD now makes life easier . would love a unrestored original low mileage car , think any mopar fan would !! but what do you do with it ? cant really use it how it should be driven , granted you could / can, go out & give it a good hiding once in a while , when the suns is shining , but cars like that should be in a museum , that's how they have survived all these years . better off with a restored car or a clone etc ,

stunning Coronet

Dave81 wrote:

Trigger_Andy wrote:I might have been hallucinating but Im sure I just watched a vid of it being driven...............

Dave81 wrote:Superb machine..........it needs to be driven though.........
Not mothballed..........

You have, but I'd guess that's a once in a blue moon event for YouTube?

Not to stereotype, but the guys that buy these high value cars don't tend to take them out much.........I'd drive the wheels off it and take it too the NATS etc.

I may be wrong, and hopefully so, but its done less than 9000 miles in nearly 50 years...........that tells a story in itself........

With respect Dave think you need to practice before you preach

I reckon survivor / low miles cars should be in museums or used sparingly they are only original once - but once somethings been restored ( even a chalk mark type restoration ) it can be used whenever within reason as the car can always be restored again - plus with a restored car once you get bored with the relatively low level of performance you can hack into it with a tunnel ram and some cragars

There's absolutely no shortage whatsoever of any of the cars you can pretty much buy any Hemi this / six pak that any day of the week on eBay.com or whatever so I don't think it hurts to keep a few examples of original unrestored cars in museums or collections.

Plus with the advent of the muscle car show in Chicago in November every year now people are actually seeing more rare cars than ever before for a $25 entry fee - this year as I'm sure a lot of you will know they had biggest collection of Hemi E body convertibles ever assembled , I went in 2012 and it was b body aero cars and Yenko chevrolets - along with lots of other muscle cars of all makes, so the show changes every year and at least people get to see the cars - we just need to convince them to hold it at the NEC one year !

Charger wrote:

Dave81 wrote:

Trigger_Andy wrote:I might have been hallucinating but Im sure I just watched a vid of it being driven...............

You have, but I'd guess that's a once in a blue moon event for YouTube?

Not to stereotype, but the guys that buy these high value cars don't tend to take them out much.........I'd drive the wheels off it and take it too the NATS etc.

I may be wrong, and hopefully so, but its done less than 9000 miles in nearly 50 years...........that tells a story in itself........

With respect Dave think you need to practice before you preach

Hey Si.............is this in relation to me and my Mopar and distances covered under ownership............... ?

If so, its a reliability thing (first few trips out ended up in recovery), followed by being a new father, Meg was born one month after purchase, followed by a house move 18 months later.......if the car had been reliable and without issue I can assure you it'd have been driven to every event.........we will see in 2016!

I agree with the standard of driving on the roads today being as factor too, but then I'd not be saying make this a daily driver.......

A sunny Sundays afternoon though or a NATS style event.........I'd long to drive it......and if it was mine, then I would.
The same could be said for WW2 planes. I for one love to see the old warbirds in flight. The sounds and smells.............that's how you keep enthusiasm for classics going, and the easiest wat to start a new generation of enthusiasts.
Not as easy with static display and 50 year old videos.

Just my opinion............

Bit of a change from your earlier comment of driving the wheels off it is it no?

Dave81 wrote:

Charger wrote:

Dave81 wrote: You have, but I'd guess that's a once in a blue moon event for YouTube?

Not to stereotype, but the guys that buy these high value cars don't tend to take them out much.........I'd drive the wheels off it and take it too the NATS etc.

I may be wrong, and hopefully so, but its done less than 9000 miles in nearly 50 years...........that tells a story in itself........

With respect Dave think you need to practice before you preach

Hey Si.............is this in relation to me and my Mopar and distances covered under ownership............... ?

If so, its a reliability thing (first few trips out ended up in recovery), followed by being a new father, Meg was born one month after purchase, followed by a house move 18 months later.......if the car had been reliable and without issue I can assure you it'd have been driven to every event.........we will see in 2016!

I agree with the standard of driving on the roads today being as factor too, but then I'd not be saying make this a daily driver.......

A sunny Sundays afternoon though or a NATS style event.........I'd long to drive it......and if it was mine, then I would.
The same could be said for WW2 planes. I for one love to see the old warbirds in flight. The sounds and smells.............that's how you keep enthusiasm for classics going, and the easiest wat to start a new generation of enthusiasts.
Not as easy with static display and 50 year old videos.

Just my opinion............

Trigger_Andy wrote:Bit of a change from your earlier comment of driving the wheels off it is it no?

Dave81 wrote:

Charger wrote:

With respect Dave think you need to practice before you preach

Hey Si.............is this in relation to me and my Mopar and distances covered under ownership............... ?

If so, its a reliability thing (first few trips out ended up in recovery), followed by being a new father, Meg was born one month after purchase, followed by a house move 18 months later.......if the car had been reliable and without issue I can assure you it'd have been driven to every event.........we will see in 2016!

I agree with the standard of driving on the roads today being as factor too, but then I'd not be saying make this a daily driver.......

A sunny Sundays afternoon though or a NATS style event.........I'd long to drive it......and if it was mine, then I would.
The same could be said for WW2 planes. I for one love to see the old warbirds in flight. The sounds and smells.............that's how you keep enthusiasm for classics going, and the easiest wat to start a new generation of enthusiasts.
Not as easy with static display and 50 year old videos.

Just my opinion............

Nope not really. If I had the chance I would drive it as much as possible as a weekend toy. Driving the wheels off it at every chance is not the same as smokey burnouts on every street and quarter mile fun..........well not to me anyway.

Yeh, try telling someone who's car your off for a test drive in you're gonna drive the wheels off it. Im sure they'd think 'Oh, how nice, he's taking it for a sunday drive....'

Dave81 wrote:

Trigger_Andy wrote:Bit of a change from your earlier comment of driving the wheels off it is it no?

Dave81 wrote: Hey Si.............is this in relation to me and my Mopar and distances covered under ownership............... ?

If so, its a reliability thing (first few trips out ended up in recovery), followed by being a new father, Meg was born one month after purchase, followed by a house move 18 months later.......if the car had been reliable and without issue I can assure you it'd have been driven to every event.........we will see in 2016!

I agree with the standard of driving on the roads today being as factor too, but then I'd not be saying make this a daily driver.......

A sunny Sundays afternoon though or a NATS style event.........I'd long to drive it......and if it was mine, then I would.
The same could be said for WW2 planes. I for one love to see the old warbirds in flight. The sounds and smells.............that's how you keep enthusiasm for classics going, and the easiest wat to start a new generation of enthusiasts.
Not as easy with static display and 50 year old videos.

Just my opinion............

Nope not really. If I had the chance I would drive it as much as possible as a weekend toy. Driving the wheels off it at every chance is not the same as smokey burnouts on every street and quarter mile fun..........well not to me anyway.

Trigger_Andy wrote:Yeh, try telling someone who's car your off for a test drive in you're gonna drive the wheels off it. Im sure they'd think 'Oh, how nice, he's taking it for a sunday drive....

My opinion seems to have taken this thread off topic. Not sure where test driving a car comes into me driving a Hemi car I own?

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, doesn't make it right or wrong.......just an opinion.....

So, for the last time.....my opinion. I'd prefer to see these cars being driven rather than sat in a museum and if it was MY car, then I WOULD drive it, not spend 6 figures for a garage ornament.