Hey Marc , did you ask him why the motor should'nt be spun back & what problems they had?marc-jerryatric wrote:Like i say Ad we had the issue as did Andy Frost, and i've just got back from pub with my mate who works at EDA and he says you should never bump the motor backwards, especially not with a Jesel belt drive,
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There is no belt tensioner on BBM Jesel. The bottom tooth pulley fits onto the crank. The top pulley pulls up onto a taper, which is what fixes the centres & pre sets belt tension.Pete wrote:If its like a 'tina, the belt goes slack and it skips a tooth or two....the difference between "drive" and "driven" tension....only rotate the motor in one direction - if you go too far its only another 358ish degrees to wind the motor....
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Not saying some have'nt had issues with this , alli know is the cam degreed with no problems , the crank was turned back many times for the .050 figures , was checked , double checked & triple checked back & forth , was kind of hoping the above problem would rear it's head.
BTW , triple checkin was an understatement , figures were consistant every time.
Will check again when finally degreed @ retainer.
BTW , triple checkin was an understatement , figures were consistant every time.
Will check again when finally degreed @ retainer.
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As there were a few questions on a Jesel, thought I would post a couple of pictures, as I just fitted new Top & Bottom seals
Jesel - Without Pulleys & belt - shows the camshaft pulley taper which determines belt tension & centres
Jesel - With Pulleys & belt fitted
Have used a home made Harmonic balancer remover for years, got the job done, but was always a bit of a struggle.
Anyway, to cut a long story short, I bought one for $80. Boy if I had known how good they are. I would of bought one as soon as I saw them, best $80 I have spent in a long time. Highly recommend.
Jesel - Without Pulleys & belt - shows the camshaft pulley taper which determines belt tension & centres
Jesel - With Pulleys & belt fitted
Have used a home made Harmonic balancer remover for years, got the job done, but was always a bit of a struggle.
Anyway, to cut a long story short, I bought one for $80. Boy if I had known how good they are. I would of bought one as soon as I saw them, best $80 I have spent in a long time. Highly recommend.
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Pete, taper is only on the top/camshaft pulley, the bottom pulley is parallelPete wrote:interesting stuff. Is the taper both on crank and cam components - it's hard to tell from the pictures
Yes, I agree with you there, especially when having to fit the bottom pulley on the jesel, that was a right pain before.Pete wrote:I find the installer the best bit of kit
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Forgot about this thread.
Anyhows , thanks for the forwarning regards the B1 heads Dunc , if all the B1s are machined in the same mannor then i can see where the potential oiling problems lie....................... all sorted.
Anyhows , thanks for the forwarning regards the B1 heads Dunc , if all the B1s are machined in the same mannor then i can see where the potential oiling problems lie....................... all sorted.
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you got enough ponjo round that cover mark,mopar_mark wrote:As there were a few questions on a Jesel, thought I would post a couple of pictures, as I just fitted new Top & Bottom seals
Jesel - Without Pulleys & belt - shows the camshaft pulley taper which determines belt tension & centres
Jesel - With Pulleys & belt fitted
Have used a home made Harmonic balancer remover for years, got the job done, but was always a bit of a struggle.
Anyway, to cut a long story short, I bought one for $80. Boy if I had known how good they are. I would of bought one as soon as I saw them, best $80 I have spent in a long time. Highly recommend.
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I knew someone was going to comment
Yeah, plenty on there, meant to wipe the excess of with me finger, but got side tracked & forgot to do it Left it to late & it had already started to set.
Could of trimmed it with a knife, but then can get iffy messing around, so let it be
Might look a bit ugly, but at least I know it wont be leaking from there
Was only a small oil leak, but the mess was bleedin unbeleiveable. Oil was getting onto the blower belt, trapped between the belt & pulley & emulsifying & slinging sh te everywhere. Took about 6 hours to get it all clean again
Yeah, plenty on there, meant to wipe the excess of with me finger, but got side tracked & forgot to do it Left it to late & it had already started to set.
Could of trimmed it with a knife, but then can get iffy messing around, so let it be
Might look a bit ugly, but at least I know it wont be leaking from there
Was only a small oil leak, but the mess was bleedin unbeleiveable. Oil was getting onto the blower belt, trapped between the belt & pulley & emulsifying & slinging sh te everywhere. Took about 6 hours to get it all clean again
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Yeah, mate. Your more than welcome to borrow it, when you need it. It's like Chalk & Cheese, can't understand why I never got one sooner.Brutus wrote:You got a new puller Mark?
That old adage about the right tools for the job, couldn't be more truer in this case.
Mind you, if I knew I was gonna get a surprise bonus this week, I would of sent it back to Canada & said fix that
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