Mopar Muscle Association UK

By accident stumbled across series 2 episode 3 last night...hadn't seen the others, didn't mean to watch this. Oh dear after 15 minutes of driving an amphibious car down Birmingham canals he is whisked off to a US desert so he can yabber about muscle cars being the American car of the people in the late 60s. Ok so far so good. The car he chooses to demonstrate this is a '69 Charger R/T which is where his researchers or his own knowledge evaporates. The R/T "has a 7.2 engine with 440 horsepower" we are told - no mention of cubic inches or different engine sizes or accurate hp figures, just that an R/T has 440hp and does 10mpg. Do some more research or dont waste money getting flown to the US for a jolly just to get 5 mins of footage with nodding donkey oil wells to make a point about fuel consumption ..........anyone on here with a Charger R/T cold have let him have 5 mins of footage and told him a darn sight more accurate info. Disappointing....

Jumes Muy is a cant

Yeah I spotted that too
As a former Charger owner and someone who has spent a day driving Glyn Biggs' 68 R/T for Top Gear, his old mate Dicky Hammond should have been able to advise

What side was that on I saw it on bbc2 last night but didn't see a charger ?

Raminduction wrote:Jumes Muy is a cant

think all three of them were plonkers on top gear ,

68 beeper wrote:What side was that on I saw it on bbc2 last night but didn't see a charger ?

Yes it was on BBC2, the Charger was sandwiched between the Amphicar and the Sinclair C5

And he finished about a mile from my house in an Adam West-era Batmobile

I watched all 3 and as a whole it was okay for history of cars and transport.
Sunday was about future so the past and oil prices of early 70 was mentioned, so the Charger and US cars of late 60 early 70 and the change after that.

What I did not know was the 100 year electric car.

cadboy wrote:....What I did not know was the 100 year electric car.

....and that it had the same 75 mile range that James May's BMW i3 has....

I caught this by accident and thought it was alright. Yes the Charger specs were off, but at least they picked Mopar as the epitome of the muscle car era and not a Mustang.

Bear in mind the bulk of the audience won't pick up on the detail, its evening entertainment.

A proper anorak would realise that the Triumph Herald that raced the Amphicar across Birmingham was the wrong pairing of engine type as the Amphicar is 1147cc Herald engine but they used a later Herald for the road car with 1296cc.

I'll get my coat.

Gas for GOSH wrote:The R/T "has a 7.2 engine with 440 horsepower" we are told - no mention of cubic inches or different engine sizes or accurate hp figures, just that an R/T has 440hp and does 10mpg. Do some more research or dont waste money getting flown to the US for a jolly just to get 5 mins of footage with nodding donkey oil wells to make a point about fuel consumption ..........anyone on here with a Charger R/T cold have let him have 5 mins of footage and told him a darn sight more accurate info. Disappointing....

Really?? Just a slip of the tongue is all it takes to get you ‘disappointed’??

FFS, it’s an entertainment program, end of

A lot of the other 2 episodes were in the US as well, they’ll have done all the US filming in 1 go

Come on guys, get a grip, maybe you’d be happier if there were no car related programs on tv

MattH wrote:Yes the Charger specs were off, but at least they picked Mopar as the epitome of the muscle car era and not a Mustang.
Bear in mind the bulk of the audience won't pick up on the detail, its evening entertainment

Exactly!! and a stunning Charger it was as well

An excellent series

Well worth a watch

All still on iPlayer

Ep1 was about the war, the one we won … or did we?? Ep2 about 4x4’s, Ep3 as Ali said about cars of the future from the past

Great to see another Chrysler representation in Leno’s Turbine (pronounced turban apparently??) Car

That turbine car was amazing, and James May getting to drive it, lucky bugger. just wish he'd smarten himself just a little bit before meeting Jay Leno!

Watched it on iplayer. I both love James May and the Charger section.

MattH is right as ever - at least they chose a Charger not a Mustang. The detail is not important - the iconic image of a true muscle car in its native habitat was what it was about. Besides which, any media depiction of a Charger and the romance that comes with it will protect any precious market values... So look on the bright side.
He answered both the most common questions I get asked "Wow ! How big is the engine ? WOW ! How many miles to the gallon ? WWWWOOOWWWW!!!"

AT least he got it wrong the right way around,,440 hp he could have said 300

I particularly like the way he says "waazz" instead of was,not sure that should be allowed on the Beeb


On a run out last Year I was questioned by a middle aged Bloke who seeing the 440 Legend on the Hood said " 4.4,I bet that doesn't do much to the Gallon".

Im enjoying the series too. I especially liked the one about 4 x 4s. I could get all sweaty over those very early landcruisers etc....not cheap anymore!

Was interested to hear that Chrysler loaned out some turbine cars for 3 months to customers for test purposes!

I would much rather watch anything car, bike, train, space, plane etc etc related than any of the 'Im a celebrity' type junk that's always on telly these days, minor errors and all if Im honest.

I used to enjoy Top Gear until they started doing stupid stuff like hand painting their cars to wind people up etc.

The last series of this prog had a good episode on the Eastern block cars....very interesting!

Cheers Steve