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Re: '58 (nash) rambler american family project

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 24 10:15 pm
by mygasser
we went to the nsra swapmeet today and i collected the torque thrust wheels. we can fit the new tyres now. i also got a used late fe 3 bolt starter and a nos windsor one which will work by swapping the nose from the fe one if it ever fails. i bought a matching late 184 tooth flexplate from ebay this evening so that issue's sorted. i checked rock auto last sunday for distributor prices and bought a repro single point one for £69 including shipping etc so was very happy with that. the last thing i needed was a carb but as ashley bought a tunnel ram and 2 carbs for his 440 today i'll have his holley 750 vs for the nash.
neil.

Re: '58 (nash) rambler american family project

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 24 10:53 pm
by mygasser
well that's the wheels and tyres all ready. we just have to build a car to fit them to now :roll:
and it's been a while but here's a reminder of what we're building, lol
neil

Re: '58 (nash) rambler american family project

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 24 9:11 pm
by mygasser
well, there's no going back now :shock:
the back axle, fuel tank and complete front suspension is out and on the floor. so it's not coming out until it's on it's new wheels, suspension, axles etc.
everything came undone with no snapped bolts which was a bonus. i reckon the tank will be reused, it just needs a dent popping out and 2 spiked holes welding where i guess the old fuel was 'drained' before shipping .
the steering box/column etc will be next then we'll start offering up the straight axle :D
neil.

Re: '58 (nash) rambler american family project

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 24 10:45 pm
by mygasser
i thought we'd have a 'look' at the damaged o/s rear 1/4 to see if it's saveable. eerrrrrr........... that'll be a big fat no then. the arch doesn't matter as they'll be radiused anyway but above that going forward and almost back to the rear light the metal's just too stretched. it didn't help when some c0ck thought it'd be a good idea to drill 20 million holes to try to pull the dent out. if the idiot had took the wheel off they'd have seen you can access the entire 1/4 panel from behind as there's no inner arch!
so..... plan 'b' is get the rear axle shortened to suit the wheels/tyres, then we'll know how far to radius the arches. then 'wheel' some repair sections and let them in as required. luckily the n/s is perfect so the new panels can be laid over that side to get the shape right.
so far the inside of the damaged 1/4 has had all the underseal removed. there's no easy way so it was blow torch, scraper and wire brush time, deep joy.
i better go and pick up the 8x4 sheet of zintec from my mate's place that he ordered in for me.
neil.
ps i'll edit with a pic or 2 once the camera's charged up, doh!

Re: '58 (nash) rambler american family project

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 24 4:39 pm
by ScottyDave
Messy job removing the underseal I'm not a fan of that task :)

Re: '58 (nash) rambler american family project

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 24 10:04 pm
by mygasser
ScottyDave wrote: Mon Apr 08, 24 4:39 pm Messy job removing the underseal I'm not a fan of that task :)
nor me, lol. i was up in the 1/4 panel so i could see and it was bl00dy hot too :(
neil.

Re: '58 (nash) rambler american family project

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 24 10:05 pm
by mygasser
first things first.... the camera battery seems to have died and won't charge . to be fair the camera's about 20 years old and the last battery i bought was probably at least 10 years ago. looks like another one is due if they're even available, lol.
back to the car, the old axle, wheels and front suspension were moved over the road. then the car, exploder axle and wheels/tyres were all measured. the results are that with 2 of the short side halfshafts the wheels/tyres will be level with the arches so that's a result. i'll have a look on the summit racing website to price a couple up, the shipping seems to be a killer these days though so the long ones i have may still get narrowed.
neil.

Re: '58 (nash) rambler american family project

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 24 10:30 pm
by mygasser
i thought i'd check with rock auto for the short explorer half shaft cost. i know there'll be some duties this end when they arrive (26th, next friday!) but at £250 including shipping for 2 brand new dana shafts there's no point getting the used ones shortened and resplined. plus it'd probably be weeks before i got them back so a time saver too.
neil.

Re: '58 (nash) rambler american family project

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 24 11:03 pm
by mygasser
monday we started assembling the front spindle/hub/ brakes. the used ford round back spindles had inner bearing/seal spacers pressed on for whatever hubs were on them. these needed pulling off (with some heat) and then turned down into a thinnish sleeve. this was because the hubs were for a disc conversion on a 49-54 chevy car and those spindles must be a tad bigger diameter. the first one's done with a forged caliper bracket attached then the hub fitted. the gm calipers then didn't fit as the brackets have a 5 1/2" bolt spacing and the calipers are 6". i do have another pair of calipers so i'll check them tomorrow. if not the 'chevy' conversion brackets will get altered to suit. one way or another this hodge podge of mismatched (but cheap, lol) parts will work seamlessly together. also today we had a rough measure up of the back end of the car and the total axle/wheel/tyre width and with the 2 short shafts that are on the way the wheels will be just under or level with the arches so spot on.
jump forward to today......
half shafts arrived today with no duties to pay, result.
also i checked the other pair of calipers and they fit the brackets spot on, 2nd result. the only other thing was the caliper wasn't centred on the disc so we made spacer rings to sandwich between the spindle and caliper bracket. it now sits and rotates nice an smoothly.
neil.

Re: '58 (nash) rambler american family project

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 24 8:38 am
by MattH
You make it all sound so easy!
I'm struggling to bleed brakes and remove a tight steering wheel boss from the column!

Re: '58 (nash) rambler american family project

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 24 9:26 pm
by mygasser
yeah, sometimes the simplest jobs are the biggest ballache matt, lol. i've got a cheap hand pump vacuum bleeder for brakes, it makes it an easy one man job. those steering wheels can seem like they're welded on sometimes too, been there myself.

after moving the old lathe over the road today i had a chat with ash about where we're at with the front brake mockup. i mentioned the last job would be redrilling the hubs to ford pcd as they're chevy. then as i said it i glanced at the other tube axle stood against the wall that is for ashley's zephyr. that's ford pcd. his front slot mags were vw 4 stud so have been welded up ready to drill to 5 stud. i said if i drill your wheels to chevy you can have these hubs and i'll have those that are ford. a bonus for him is the chevy ones are drilled and grooved and shiny, the ford ones are plain discs and surface rusty which i'm not worried about, lol. so no hub drilling for me now, result.
with a bit of lateral thinking most things can be achieved simply or cheaply and sometimes both. :thumbright:
neil.

Re: '58 (nash) rambler american family project

Posted: Wed May 01, 24 7:20 pm
by mygasser
today we dissassembled both front hubs and ashley's axle. we cleaned the surface rust from the discs with a twist knot cup wheel on the grinder, vicious things they are. odd wires fly out and dig in you, even through clothes. anyway the hub swap was straightforward except the inner seals were about 5mm different inner diameter but they swapped over easy enough. next again the surface rust was cleaned from the axle bosses so the new kingpins slid in nicely with their thrust bearings and shims as required. the hubs are now on the spindles and that's where we are to date.
neil.

Re: '58 (nash) rambler american family project

Posted: Fri May 03, 24 5:35 pm
by mygasser
ashley's axle came complete with all the steering arms etc whereas mine is pieced together from parts. so although we could've used the pair available and sorted ash's later it made sense to do them now. we sorted a lump of 1/2" plate and drew around them before cutting them out with slitting discs and a drill for the corners and roundy bits. clamped together we ground them the same before drilling them again clamped together. lastly they needed nice tight 90 degree bends which isn't possible with either my folder or the hot spanner. so we cut 1/2 way through, bent them in the vice then welded the corners back out to the same thickness. another grind up and some primer and gloss black and they're ready to fit.
neil.

Re: '58 (nash) rambler american family project

Posted: Sat May 04, 24 2:30 pm
by ScottyDave
There's always a solution when you haven't got access to the proper tools.
Nicely done :thumbright:

Re: '58 (nash) rambler american family project

Posted: Sat May 04, 24 10:26 pm
by mygasser
cheers Dave, yes it'd need to be some kind of jumbo press/folder to put tight 90 degree bends into 1/2" steel plate that's for sure.
today we got all the hodge podge of parts together, well we did after some relieving of the new steering arms to clear the caliper brackets anyway. then with the box of rod ends, nuts, bolts, washers and top hat spacers from rally design found we made a track rod. the paint's drying on that now. lastly we cleaned the threads in the hairpins and screwed rod ends into them before bolting them to the axle too. it'll soon be time to offer it all up under the front of the car.....
neil.